Bow Hunting

Bow Hunting was proposed as part of the Deer Management Plan, this may seem attractive as a cheaper solution, but it has its share of problems.

Some issues are:

• Bowhunting is inhumane and wasteful.
• Bowhunters do not want to talk about the wounding issue and archery wounding is the most denied problem in bowhunting.
• Wounding and crippling losses are inevitable.
• Shot placement is, for all practical purposes, random due to the difficulty in shooting arrows accurately. There is absolutely no sure way to kill a deer instantly with a bow.
• More often than not, poorly hit deer are lost and not recovered.
• The main cause of infection in the wound is today’s multi-bladed Broadhead arrow
• Almost all abdominally shot deer die a slow death from peritonitis with the average time of death measured in agonizing days or weeks rather than in minutes or hours.
• The use of bowhunting as a method to control deer population densities is ineffective. Bowhunting is not a population control measure; it is a recreational pursuit.

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[Ed note] - After 3 repeated requests with no summary for posting, I finally read the document and wrote the summary and posting.

Sandy Baker

The PPike gardening class might be added to the Sandy Baker stuff. It should be prefaced by the fact that PP Mayor Akers brought the Deer Dr [don't use this name, its a hunter name see other post] back for an encore because she is so good.  

Could add to class post if I knew this was taught by or written by Sandy Baker

John, my sincere apologies. There is an attachment with a letter from Akers singing her praises. [This was at the bottom of an email Subject: Bow Hunting, It took several searches of over 500 emails to find this doc it was Subject: Fw Solon--Deer] She is not your average 'how to protect your tulips'  expert. She is THE numero uno.

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If it's so humane why is it shielded from the public

Virtually all programs involving government-sponsored killing of suburban deer do not allow concerned citizens or members of the media to observe, much less document, the killing process or its aftermath. Consequently, the times, dates, and locations of the killing are not made public. Officials usually explain this as being necessary for safety reasons.

But Tim Setnicka, former Superintendent of the Channel Islands National Park, reveals a different motive. During his 30-year career with the Park Service, Setnicka supervised numerous large-scale wildlife killing programs. In 2005, he began to speak out against what he came to consider park superintendents "playing god."

"We never allowed the media to accompany the hunters to film the hunting activity. Safety reasons were always given as reasons for denial of their request. The real reason is that we wanted to avoid images of the ugliness of the hunt," admits Setnicka. "You watch the life drain out of their eye, which becomes dull as they die. This is an impossible image to sell the public or politicians, which is why no photos are allowed."

Inhumane Death

The following is undercover footage of the Summit County Metroparks deer slaughter where the park employees are being trained by Solon's former wildlife extermination company sharpshooter, White Buffalo, President Anthony DeNicola. After shooting the deer, plastic bags were placed over their heads as in Solon.

WARNING This video contains graphic images

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Sf2NSLhb4c

This video was shown at a public meeting at the Solon public library in Dec.'04 before the decision makers hired Mr. Denicola. Many city employees and public officials attended and did watch this video and yet they proceeded with their lethal plan.

After viewing SHARK’s video footage, all three vets declared that the deer in question was still alive minutes after being shot while a bag was pulled over her head.

Hi, my name is Dr. Bennett Fagin, and I'm a veterinarian, a licensed veterinarian in the state of Ohio. I've been a veterinarian for 22 years. I’ve just finished watching video footage of a deer kill in the Summit Metro Park, and I've watched the footage from before the deer was shot until the deer was dragged off of the field and in my professional opinion; the deer was not killed with the first shot. The first shot was the only shot, and I do not understand why an additional shot wasn't rendered after the deer was shot the first time. A bag was placed over its head, and the deer actually struggled more after the bag was placed over its head than it was after it was shot. I realize that muscle contractions occur for minutes following a fatal shot, but what I visualized was more than muscle contractions or fasciculation. The animal actually thrashed when its leg was grabbed and in my professional opinion, the manner in which this animal was shot is inhumane. I think the animal should have been shot again, and someone at close range should have placed a shot either in its head or through its heart and humanely killed it. Thank you.

My name is Dr. Alice Jeromin. I am a registered veterinarian in the state of Ohio for the past 15 years. I just had the opportunity to view a shot of the deer kill in the Summit County Metro Park. The circumstance was that the deer was apparently shot somewhere in the upper body, left for dead and then when approached by someone, started to fight and flail. They then put a plastic bag around his head in an effort to drag him off the field, and he fought the entire way. In my opinion after seeing this video, after this deer was shot with one shot, that deer was not dead. What was done to that deer was extremely inhumane in my opinion. He was still alive, and that deer was suffocated apparently then by the person coming up and placing that plastic bag around his head.

I'm Dr. Richard Slenn, graduated from vet. school in 1986, mixed animal practitioner, large and small. I've viewed the videotape of the deer euthanization, and it is my opinion that the deer obviously was still alive when it was being dragged off with the plastic bag around its head. It should have been totally limp with no struggle. It probably could have been remedied by giving a second shot or a third shot in the skull, right when they realized that it was still kicking. Yes, the animals do move a little bit after being shot in the head, if they’re shot right, but not for that extended period of time that was shown in that pictorial. I was once a hunter, and I have had the occasion to euthanize deer with a shot in the head, so I actually have experience in knowing how long an animal probably would twitch and kick and resist, and that was not the case here.

My name is Meg J. Baho, DVM. I graduated from the Ohio State University College of Veterinary Medicine in 1995 and practice animal medicine in the Columbus, Ohio area. I just viewed the horrifying video footage. My opinion is as follows: The first deer on the footage was shot, collapsed, and then appeared to have either conscious muscle contractions due to struggling and pain or perhaps violent post-mortem, agonal muscle tremors. The deer was then still for several moments. However, after the bag was placed on the doe's head, she was seen to have violent, flailing movements generalized through her body. This would not happen if she had been fatally shot the first time. These movements were not characteristic of normal post-mortem movement in any way, shape or form. She would not have post-mortem activity moments after being fatally shot induced by having a bag placed over her head. If the shooters were in that close of range, a fatal shot should have been administered. I cannot imagine why this didn't happen. If individuals involved in these cullings were interested in looking for diseases in her brain and central nervous system, she could have been much more humanely killed via a shot through her heart. There is no reason that I can imagine that she was not killed with another bullet. Humane and safe alternatives to deer population control exist and should be employed in both rural and urban areas. This sort of killing only reduces the gene pool and only invites deer from surrounding areas to come in and take the environmental niche that was left behind after this "depopulation."

An Unlikely Ally

Its no surprise that deer advocates are against hunting, what is more surprising is when a major proponent of deer culling with a PhD takes a stand against hunting. Not only did the founder of White Buffalo, the city's sharpshooter, take this stand, he communicated this to our public works commissioner in January this year before that same person proposed a bow hunting program.

WhiteBuffalo on Hunting


Any comments, suggestions on the intro text?


Posted here.

Yard Signs Method

Timing of order, and placing signs

Second big web launch exposing web site to large audience
xx

How many in initial order/increments

100

www.yardsignwholesale.com
This is the website for the signs. Last year Broaadview and Ottawa ordered 100 signs for $320 and they do overnight them and the wire stands are included in the price (but ordered separately).

Placement

15 ft setback from Right of Way (past sidewalk), height limit of 4 ft, size limit of 6 sq ft.

Help

Enlist Stan

Yard Sign Restrictions

Solon has restrictions on yard signs that need to be considered.

Yard Signs

Exactly what should they say...

No Hunting (by hunting we mean all forms of killing, see post)
in our
Neighborhood (in our city? in Solon?  that would make it one less line)

SolonDeer.com (no http://, no need for www. )


Have room for a (bumper) sticker saying NO on xxx where xxx is issue number assigned by Board of Elections (BOE).


Reuse sign by putting a (bumper) sticker over the web site with a new address?

Deer Hunting Accidents

Received an email with 10 pages of Hunting Accidents...

I have copied it into a Word Document, will clean up formating than store document on ScribD so it can be embedded into a post.

Will need to write some summary text around it...

New Label Safety?  YES! Ambiguous? Meaning Safety of people not DVA?

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Deer Hunting Accidents

Hunting isn't safe, never has been, never will be.  From Vice President Chaney's famous hunting accident to the startling statistics -- According to the International Hunter Education Ass. approximately 1,000 people in the US and Candada are accidentally shot by hunters every year and just under a hundred of those accidents are fatalities.

-- added Lane's 1st comment

Below is just a sampling of major headlines of serious hunting accidents. It makes no sense to do something unsafe in the name of safety. Using modern DVA deterrents addresses the real safety issue without endangering the public by use of lethal weapons.

-- embed document

Let's be safe, use DVA Deterrents, not deadly weapons.

Cayuga Action

This part is very important so we can involve the residents right now.


green from BTV

WHAT YOU CAN DO:

A positive resolution of this issue depends on individual people getting involved and taking action. I’d leave out the sentence and just leave it as “What You Can Do:”  OK

1)  Speak up--Contact your decision makers and let them know your questions and concerns.  Then list contacts and maybe a menu of things they can chose from to say. Has this been completed too? If not, I’d suggest to the reader that a contact can be as simple as stating your position, “I wanted to let you know,(councilperson,)that as your constituent, my position on this issue is (blank.). They don’t need to explain themselves or get into a verbal debate, just state their position.  And email is just fine for those that prefer it.  Remember, these people represent you.  They need to know what their residents think. DONE It has been my experience that you have to take people by the hand and tell them step by step what to do. [added link to Solon People, added detailed contact info on that page]  

2) Sign our online petition can you set this up easily? [I expect that it would be setup on change.org and just need a Link on the action page.]  Last discussion seems this will be a supporter database, see Petitions Label.  Will be put on Action Page. DONE  How clear do we need to make it that our online petition is not the same as the ballot initiative petition? This must be very clear, I don't think we can call it a petition in order to prevent confusion. Didn't call it a petition, called it Join Us. DONE

3) Write a letter to the editor and list links/addresses [added this item to Action page, linked to Solon Media page which has links to media with instructions for LTE]  DONE Should include email(obviously) and fax. I know one of the editors prefers fax, but can’t recall which. Check out Solon/Media page.

4) Help educate others Get your friends, neighbors and colleagues family, friends, and neighbors(?) – Colleagues are not very likely to live in Solon. Don’t know if should mention “neighbors. “ If you’re friendly with your neighbors, you’d consider them friends.  This one’s your call.  involved in the public dialogue about this important issue. Begin by letting them know about this web resource. You can do that quickly and easily by clicking on the Send-to-a-Friend button.  John can you set this up? [Need to research]   Added a widget to the blog to subscribe by email.

5) Attend City Meetings which are open to the public Your presence makes a big difference to the city and your representative.  DONE List schedules [See Below] DONE

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[Note] This material IS on the Action page, Solon/Media page and Solon/People page.

Cayuga Ideas

Can we please add some of this content from Cayuga Deer. Jenny said its ok. You decide where best to put this.

We encourage you to look beyond the assumption that there are just too many deer, and that killing some will solve people’s problems. Instead, consider that it is unresolved deer-human conflicts that make people so frustrated. Non-violent solutions exist to address these conflicts directly, allowing us to live in harmony with both our neighbors and our natural surroundings. These alternatives promise to be more effective, less costly, and less divisive than a killing program that largely ignores existing data and research.

And this

Each of these alternatives to a bait and shoot program offers a documented potential to significantly reduce the risk of deer-vehicle collsions, and without negative side-effects, including the safety risks associated with the annual discharge of weapons in a densely settled community. Solon finance committee has already allocated $150,000 for this years deer killing program.  The city has already spent $807,325.55 not including legal fees and as outside experts have confirmed, a bait and shoot program is not a one-time solution, but rather a yearly endeavor.¹⁴ Thus, the public safety risks, the cost to tax payers, and the moral weight of killing human-habituated deer would continue to accrue year after year.

We can do better. Resources invested in sensible, nonviolent alternatives are a far better investment as they will provide immediate results, and will continue to offer value to the community for years to come.

DONE

Hunting Defined

We talked about "NO HUNTING" as a slogan, but we mean "NO LETHAL" which doesn't have much of a ring to it.  Somewhere prominent on the main site, most likely the home page we'll need to define our goals and state clearly that our "NO HUNTING" slogan means

• No killing
• No sharpshooting 
• No captive bolt
• And especially "NO (lethal) DEER Management"
• As well as NO HUNTING

I think we can expect Solon to use the tag line "Comprehensive Deer Management" to hide the fact that they want to kill. They may even admit to "lethal and non-lethal", but if history (Strieter Lite) is any measure we can expect that anything "non-lethal" will be very half hearted.

Solon

Add content to page/subpages

Start your comment with the page name then comment


Solon

• History - See separate post
• Laws - From original Deer Record Doc
• Media - Info on contacting media
• People

Label Web

News / Reference

Much of the News and Reference content could be hosted on the Companion Blog.  Some of the most critical issues could be put on the Main Site.

We need to gather some initial items for the Launch.???

Should these two pages be removed from the main site?  REMOVED

Is News Label on Blog good with monthly media links?

Should News be moved to Comments Blog?  MOVED NEWS AND RENAMED THE BLOG

Blog

The web site launch is quickly approaching, please concentrate on items REQUIRED for launch, filling in sparse page content or high priority content.  Site updates are an ongoing concern and will continue as issues develop.

Put general suggestions REQUIRED for LAUNCH that aren't covered else where in a WEBNOW post.

For Main Web Site suggestions see other WEBNOW post.

For items NOT needed for launch, comment to another post.

Web Site

The web site launch is quickly approaching, please concentrate on items REQUIRED for launch, filling in sparse page content or high priority content.  Site updates are an ongoing concern and will continue as issues develop.

Put general suggestions REQUIRED for LAUNCH that aren't covered else where in a WEBNOW post.

For Blog suggestions see other WEBNOW post.

For items NOT needed for launch, comment to another post.

Letters to the Editor

Should we have a place for letters to the editor? As I am sifting thru old newspaper clippings I'm finding some terrific LTE from angry Solonites expressing their outrage at the continued carnage and waste of $. There are also some good Ron Hill cartoons.

And what about the most recent Letters to the Editor...

YES, I saw that at one of the other sites.  I'd say we probably have enough material for a separate page from the News Page. We can expect a lot of these.  I've setup a separate blog - SolonDeerNews.

Comment or update this post with links...  Gather scans and we'll put them in a document repository ScribD or Google Docs.

Solon Sun

Solon City Council removes culling program from agenda; concerns grow about ...

Citing a huge public outcry over plans to allow bow hunting of deer, plus the large number of new City Council members who are unfamiliar with the city's ...


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Wildlife Conservation Blog

Linda Heinberg, Esq., NYS has been in our network for a few years.

Perhaps we should include a link to her blog in our site?

My current blog post is about the insanely high number of wild animals the federal government kills each year in the name of damage control... on our dime.

To view the blog go to www.politicswildlife.blogspot.com
Please feel free to share my blog with others.

Best,

Linda Heinberg

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Added Link on Link page
Two posts referencing her site:
http://solondeer.blogspot.com/2011/02/killing-wildlife-is-expensive.html
http://solondeer.blogspot.com/2011/02/killing-deer-is-ineffective.html

Solon Deer Work: Strieter Lites

Solon Deer Work: Strieter Lites: "Several documents Web site: http://www.strieter-lite.com/ Bought by Solon but neglected."

BLOG THIS!

Patch News

The Solon patch reported that Bell has concerns too.

http://solon.patch.com/articles/deer-culling-has-long-controversial-history-in-solon

Russo of course is solidly for the pilot program. Only Mooney hasn't taken a public stand. Stan thinks Mooney will be a No making the pilot defeated 5-1.

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