Aerial Counting

or counting in general.

Error prone.

Glenwillow included.

See what was said on 

https://sites.google.com/site/villagedeer/Myths-and-Facts

Letters to the Editor

Should we have a place for letters to the editor? As I am sifting thru old newspaper clippings I'm finding some terrific LTE from angry Solonites expressing their outrage at the continued carnage and waste of $. There are also some good Ron Hill cartoons.

And what about the most recent Letters to the Editor...

YES, I saw that at one of the other sites.  I'd say we probably have enough material for a separate page from the News Page. We can expect a lot of these.  I've setup a separate blog - SolonDeerNews.

Comment or update this post with links...  Gather scans and we'll put them in a document repository ScribD or Google Docs.

Web Security

Right now the city doesn't know we're out here, I hope.  But as we go forward this work site will become more sensitive and the city will undoubtedly monitor it as they do the cleveland.com Solon forum (I know, I've been personally contacted by city officials for saying things they don't like).

The good news is that the bulk of the web services are under Google Apps, so once someone is registered to a Google Account, I can grant them access to the various services.  There are two ways to be registered, if you have a gmail account, you already are.  If not you can register your own email address to Google Accounts.  Then you can log in to Goggle Apps and have authority to move to the various services under that one ID.

This site has been deliberately removed from search engines.

At some point soon I'd like to meet with the most active contributors to walk you through the Account Registration and the various services.

Wildlife Politics

http://www.politicswildlife.blogspot.com/

This is Linda Heinberg Esq., blogsite which is imperative for our site.

This should go under the heading THE TRUTH BEHIND URBAN DEER KILLS which LM has written about beautifuly using the Terry Moore quote.

As you know most people won't click on the link unless we pique their curiosity so should we list the titles in Linda's blog and then a hyperlink to read more.

National Urban Wildlife

Excellent article!  Her website has alot of good material also. 

www.uswildlife.us

DONE! in links section.

Public Blog post with teaser?


Need an abstract...

Blogger Pages

Use of Pages Feature

• For Welcome & How to use
• Legal
• Contact

Hunting as Population Control

http://www.examiner.com/urban-wildlife-in-national/realities-of-hunting-as-a-population-control-why-so-many-deer

Please put this on our site. Can you put the title somewhere boldly, up front and center so it will serve as a teaser to entice people to READ MORE

Everyone needs to read this including us. People need to understand that these urban deer kills are merely a huge polical machine and has nothing to do with science, conservation or legitimate biology.

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Realities of hunting as a population control: Why there are so many deer today

Politics & Wildlife (see below): ??

Although counterintuitive, the truth is hunting isn't much of a population control tool. There are a number of reasons why this is the case, the most significant being the fact that once a portion of a wildlife herd is removed, the remaining animals have more food to eat. This rather straightforward reality has some subtle implications.

Management by Death

I assume you all saw the article in the PD on 2/17 regarding the DNR's "maintenance" of bird populations through killing - the most recent victim to be barred owls.  1,500 barred owls are in the gun sights in Northern California.  The article also mentions ODNR's efforts to eliminate double crested cormorants.  My God, can't these knuckleheads find another way to spend their time???

http://www.cleveland.com/neobirding/index.ssf/2011/02/killing_some_birds_to_save_oth.html

ODNR

http://sites.google.com/site/broadviewdeer/why-the-odnr-self-finances-with-hunting

Copy? this page to public blog, give attribution.

Web Help

Invite other city IT help to this site, label Web to comment on open items.

Safety Mtg

The USDA met with Stanek just before the Feb 9 mtg, do we have an OPR on that?

We're expecting USDA and ODNR at March 9th Safety Mtg.

It's been said that a "comprehensive" plan will be presented by May 1, this would mean it would be on April 13. If May 1 isn't firm then it could be on May 11.

City Process

How to deal with Russo's gag order.

Add Link to Patch article

Last Minute Agenda Changes

Twitter

Could have an account.  Mentioned on site home page or sidebar.

RSS feeds on site aren't working and seem delayed on blogger.

Blogger

Explain this Work Blog (this site).

Explain Public Blogger for both internal use and public.

Solon Sun

Solon City Council removes culling program from agenda; concerns grow about ...

Citing a huge public outcry over plans to allow bow hunting of deer, plus the large number of new City Council members who are unfamiliar with the city's ...


POSTED TO BLOG NEWS: Jan 2011

Petitions

Hi,
I'm getting caught up on the last few days of emails and came across one of many I get regarding signing a petition.  This one is about the cutting of funding for public radio and tv, but could be an idea for collecting signatures for our purposes.

Could we do this?  Is it too much work?  Are the signatures legal for our purposes?

Wildlife Conservation Blog

Linda Heinberg, Esq., NYS has been in our network for a few years.

Perhaps we should include a link to her blog in our site?

My current blog post is about the insanely high number of wild animals the federal government kills each year in the name of damage control... on our dime.

To view the blog go to www.politicswildlife.blogspot.com
Please feel free to share my blog with others.

Best,

Linda Heinberg

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Added Link on Link page
Two posts referencing her site:
http://solondeer.blogspot.com/2011/02/killing-wildlife-is-expensive.html
http://solondeer.blogspot.com/2011/02/killing-deer-is-ineffective.html

Deer Mgt

DOC!

The attached doc would be excellent for our site but we should do some research for OH to add,

This could be written as WHY deer culls fail to control populations or WHY deer culls are sef-defeating and self-perpetuating.

 

I also have the now famous quote from Solon's previous contract killer Denicola we def need to add .....

According to the Greenwhich Times (1-23-05)  "once officials decide to reduce the deer population, they must be prepared to continue in subsequent years," said biologists and officials involved in deer reduction efforts. Many of them compare the efforts to manage the deer pop. to the concept of mowing the lawn. "Once you mow it, you're always going to be mowing it," said Anthony Dinicola.

 

I'm looking at a flier we did the first round and I forgot just how good it is. We can use all of it for our site.

 

Love this one:

If extermination worked the fact that there is deer hunting season in every state of the union would testify to its effectiveness. The fact that deer are still an annoyance in Silin proves that extermination is in fact expensive, lines someones pockets somewhere and leaves the citizins with a larger and larger communety tax bill every year.

 

We entitled the flier:

SAFETY, SENSE AND YOUR TAX DOLLARS

 We might want this on our home page

USDA

http://www.peer.org/docs/usda/09_09_06_strader_narrative.pdf

I found this narrative from Gary's case.  If someone decides to take on Wildlife Services, I think it would be useful.  If you Google his name, there is a lot of info about the case.  I think the case has been settled.  He turned down USDA Wildlifes Services reinstatement of his job and did get a monetary settlement.  It is a good story, even though, I hate the SOB.

And this data

http://www.examiner.com/urban-wildlife-in-national/wildlife-services-exterminates-over-4-1-million-animals-2009

I will contact friends whose towns used WS to do deer culls in 2 towns in PA and NJ in hopes that they can give us dirt deer specific.

Their Arguments for Killing

What are their arguments for killing deer?  And how do we respond?

• DVA - You don't have to kill deer
• Gardens - deer doctor
• deforestation - ??
• Cullling reduces deer - rebound

Watch ambiguous use of terms... Like Safety - of cars or near by residents.

Solon Deer Work: Strieter Lites

Solon Deer Work: Strieter Lites: "Several documents Web site: http://www.strieter-lite.com/ Bought by Solon but neglected."

BLOG THIS!

Deer Doctor

Searching for "deer doctor" turns up many pro hunter sites...

deerdoctor.com is redirected to a hunting site so even though she goes by Deer Dr, using that reference could misdirect someone.

The real site is http://www.deerproofyourgarden.com/

Strieter Lites

Several documents

Web site: http://www.strieter-lite.com/

Bought by Solon but neglected.

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This link is NOW ON the DVA deterrent page. This article deals with the UGA study saying that Streiter Lites DON'T work.

http://all-creatures.org/cash/cc2007-w-efficacy.html

When Scott Peters stood there and claimed the deer habituate to the Strieter Lites and had data to prove that I knew immediately what report he was referring to. It's pure bull. The link above debunks the bunk. I have the official report from John Strieter somewhere.

We need to keep this in our files for when Russo and co.try to prove the lites don't work

DeerDeter Deer Crossing Gaurd

Three email attachments...

Web site :  http://www.deerdeter.com/

Video

Nice link on youtube,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvqGteIRzvw

This was made by the wonderful Tia -- Censored --

Need a summary of this video, then I'll move summary to blog post and embed this video.


Could also use a summary of her other videos and add a link to her YouTube Channel as a postscript to this post or as a new post.

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SUGGESTED INTRO

Why non-lethal methods?

Hunting doesn't work because of rebound effect, that's why killing programs are repeated year after year with the deer population continuing to grow as fast as or faster than the killing.

Lethal deer management is a sham put forth by hunting interests to gain more convenient hunting access in urban environments.
[feed plot]
Hunters "thin the herd" causing the surviving herd to grow stronger, reproduce at higher rates until there is overpopulation, then DVAs, then they hunt because something "must be done". This circular logic causes a constant supply of deer for hunters while citizens are duped by the threat that if nothing is done, they'll be subjected to DVAs.
[pop 30,000 for Solon is too high, should be 21,000 for that year]

White Buffalo that was hired by Solon said its like "mowing the lawn", referring to the need to constantly kill to overcome the Rebound effect. This becomes a self perpetuating cash flow for the lethal operators.

So Hunting is proposed, this reduces the cost of sharp shooters only to be made up in hunting licenses for the big proponents of hunting, ODNR, ODOW, USDA Wildlife Services. Again its a circular self perpetuating cash flow for those involved, while the citizens are paying money, and being subjected to unnecessary safety risks. Hunting causes cruel deaths for the animals.

Non-lethal methods are far cheaper and more effective, its time to get off this treadmill of killing year after year and use methods that don't generate more deer and more DVAs.

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I don't know if this is any better than Lane's comment below...
I was trying to soften the conspiracy issue to go along with the emotional plea of the video, having watched it several times, maybe that's not needed.

Lane's material is here.

From the video description:

Proof positive of failure of deer culling program at Pepper Pike OH

Human Fatality in DVA is Murder One

http://www.all-creatures.org/hope/deer-20070829.htm

The first point I make here can cause wide-spread controversy and confrontation between hunters and anti-hunters. Hunters blame deer overpopulation for causing the DVAs as justification for the massive killing of deer in the eyes of the non-hunting yet safety-conscious public, but I contend that the DVAs are at least in part deliberately caused by none other than the hunters themselves.

Although only 6% of the American public hunt, they still amount to millions of deer hunters. To ensure themselves of enough deer to hunt, they use feed plots in the wild to artificially boost the deer population to "overpopulation" levels, which then causes high DVA rates.

Not only this. Ask any major insurance company what day of the year has the highest DVA rate, and you will likely be told that it is the opening day of the deer hunting season, and that the two months of the hunting season account for about half of the year's DVA total.

For more on the article
http://www.all-creatures.org/hope/deer-20070804.htm


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This report is VERY exciting. This comes from  friends in our deer network in Cayuga Hts, next to Ithaca (Cornell)  Jenny Stein and James LaVeck have the production co., Tribe of Heart and have done award winning films about animal exploitation. They have held off sharpshooters in their town for 2 yrs. This report below is fantastic and if they don't manage to stop it for good then I just don't know else could.

Petition for Election

Here is a link for the County Board of Elections Election Calender:

http://208.90.53.35/pdf_boe/en-US/2011_Election_Calendar.pdf

I believe the petition has to be filed by August 10th in order to appear on the November ballot.  Page 16 has the schedule for the November election and page 21 has Solon's voting stats for the last election.  9,470 voters voted for governor in the last election. 

Do you have a copy of the petition that was circulated in Broadview Hts?  Ours will probably be similar in wording. 

Old News

Looking thu old articles I came across something interesting in the Solon Sun-May 12, 2005

Solon may have to consider allwoing hunting in the city to help control the deer population, Mr. Greer (ODNR) said. In Geauga and Portage counties the population is controlled with hunting permits in the unincorporated  areas. "It's a program I think the city will go forward with in some respect in the future to thin the herd," said David Hromco, Solon's assistant public works director.

 

Point being that bringing in sharpshooters was just a foot in the door and the Solon admin were and are just shills for the ODNR. More backroom deals. I have other similar statements to back this up. Solon residents need to know that this is NOT about controlling populations and that hunting does the complete opposite to achieve the supposed goal of "thinning" the herd. This information needs to be on our website.

 

As Hrmoco's statement above shows the city knew it was eventually going to allow bow hunting. And of course now that they're rid of Godzich...

 

We will need to find people willing to gather signatures. I'm doing everything I can right now to get the initiative under way but the first step is getting the website done.

 

Bow Hunting Rules

See attachments... The rules and the dvas

This came from http://solon.patch.com/articles/contentious-deer-culling-proposal-heads-for-solon-council-showdown

My comments on the Solon Rules. These will be revamped and presented in May, we'll see if they address these short comings.

Hunting

This entire "urban hunting zone" was orchestrated by the ODNR. It is part of their master plan. The hunters love hunting in the burbs for a few reasons. Big trophy bucks since they've never been hunted before. Easy targets since they're domesticated deer and convenience. The ODNR won't put any roadblocks up at all. This is all part of their hunter recruitment program since hunting is on the decline big time. For fun take a look at the Committee to Abolish Sport Hunting website (CASH) There's a running tally of accidents and it looks like this year has been the higest. Also, According to the International Hunter Education Ass. approximately 1,000 people in the U.S. and Canada are accidentally shot by hunters every year and just under 100 of those accidents are fatalities.

Patch News

The Solon patch reported that Bell has concerns too.

http://solon.patch.com/articles/deer-culling-has-long-controversial-history-in-solon

Russo of course is solidly for the pilot program. Only Mooney hasn't taken a public stand. Stan thinks Mooney will be a No making the pilot defeated 5-1.

POSTED TO BLOG NEWS:

Sun News

I have reread the article about bow hunting in the Chagrin Solon Sun (Thurs., Jan. 13, 2011), and several statements in that article seriously bring into question the wisdom of, and reasons for, allowing bow hunting in Solon.

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Videos

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpRkc0ufFUo&feature=email

PROMISE you'll watch all 4 videos. These were made by my friend Bob in Grand Haven MI where they killed deer and it was a disaster and now want to bow hunt.

Make  SURE to  especially watch the very last one Apology to Mayor or something like that. You will laugh until you cry. They're brilliant and guess what they actually worked!

Solon Hunting

http://www.cleveland.com/chagrinsolonsun/index.ssf/2010/10/solon_holding_off_on_reinstati.html

Please take note of Kruas's statements here regarding dva's on Cannon and SOM. Less dva's. No mention that the Strieter Lites are there.

POSTED on Blog as News: 2010

Call to Action

2nd Safety Meeting on Bow Hunting...


Dear Friends,

The city of Solon is poised to repeat their failed and costly deer mismanagement program only this time using the most cruel and dangerous method...BOW HUNTING.